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Jeanne-Marie Rugira<\/strong> est professeure au d\u00e9partement de psychosociologie et de travail social \u00e0 l\u2019Universit\u00e9\u00a0du Qu\u00e9bec \u00e0 Rimouski (UQAR). Elle est directrice des programmes de premier cycle en psychosociologie. Elle est aussi consultante et accompagnatrice d\u2019organismes sur les questions d\u2019inclusivit\u00e9, de racisme et de f\u00e9minisme intersectionnel.\u202f\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

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Cette femme au parcours inspirant\u00a0est arriv\u00e9e\u00a0au Qu\u00e9bec\u00a0au d\u00e9but\u00a0des ann\u00e9es\u00a01990\u00a0pour faire ses \u00e9tudes doctorales.\u00a0Quelques mois apr\u00e8s son arriv\u00e9e, alors que son pays est \u00e0 feu et \u00e0 sang,\u00a0elle sera\u00a0contrainte de demeurer sur le sol qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois en tant que r\u00e9fugi\u00e9e et entame, par la suite, un parcours sem\u00e9 d\u2019emb\u00fbche. \u00c0 travers ses exp\u00e9riences acad\u00e9miques et terrains, Jeanne-Marie navigue avec une lucidit\u00e9 d\u00e9concertante entre ces diff\u00e9rents obstacles. Dans cette entrevue, elle nous livre comment la transformation vers des organisations plus inclusives s\u2019op\u00e8re \u00e0 travers son travail. Sa voix m\u2019a cont\u00e9 maintes le\u00e7ons de sagesse, et cette br\u00e8ve entrevue, ne repr\u00e9sente qu\u2019un soup\u00e7on de ces derni\u00e8res. En esp\u00e9rant que ces mots, v\u00e9ritables invitations \u00e0 la transformation sociale dans la lutte antiraciste, vous apprendront tout autant qu\u2019\u00e0 moi.\u202f\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

F\u202f:<\/mark><\/strong> Comment as-tu commenc\u00e9 ton travail de consultante aupr\u00e8s d\u2019organismes sur les questions reli\u00e9es aux diversit\u00e9s\u2009?\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

J.M\u202f:<\/mark><\/strong> Je dirais qu\u2019en 2016, quand j\u2019ai eu la citoyennet\u00e9 canadienne, j\u2019ai repris ma parole citoyenne. Quelque chose s\u2019est ouvert et \u00e7a m\u2019a donn\u00e9 l\u2019autorisation d\u2019avoir une parole. J\u2019ai repris mon militantisme f\u00e9ministe, j\u2019ai repris mon militantisme antiraciste. C\u2019est \u00e7a, tout \u00e0 coup j\u2019\u00e9tais chez moi. J\u2019avais mon mot \u00e0 dire. Je me disais que je devais \u00e0 ma terre d\u2019accueil d’\u0153uvrer avec les autres pour continuer de b\u00e2tir\u00a0une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 plus juste. [\u2026]\u00a0Je me suis impliqu\u00e9e dans mon milieu, et depuis\u00a0je\u00a0 travaille aupr\u00e8s des organisations avec qui je partage les valeurs et les pr\u00e9occupations,\u00a0rendre les services plus accessibles, plus \u00e9quitables et plus inclusives, surtout pour les populations historiquement marginalis\u00e9es.\u00a0Ce travail est donc coh\u00e9rent avec mes valeurs, avec mon histoire. Et, aussi coh\u00e9rent\u00a0avec mon regard singulier qui ajoute une voix \u00e0 celles qu\u2019on est habitu\u00e9 d\u2019entendre.\u202f<\/p> \n \n

F\u202f:<\/strong> <\/mark>Tu travailles dans des organismes \u00e0 vocation de justice sociale, qui sont f\u00e9ministes, mais qui viennent te voir afin d\u2019avoir des pratiques plus inclusives. J\u2019imagine que ce sont des organismes majoritairement compos\u00e9s de personnes blanches\u2009?\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

J.M\u202f:<\/strong> <\/mark>Oui.\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

F\u202f:<\/strong> <\/mark>D\u00e8s lors, comment tu t\u2019assures d\u2019implanter ces strat\u00e9gies\u2009? Quelles sont les bonnes pratiques afin de travailler dans ce contexte\u2009?\u202f\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

J.M\u202f:<\/mark><\/strong> La premi\u00e8re chose que je fais, c\u2019est de travailler sur la question du lien.\u00a0La construction du capital relationnel et de la reconnaissance de notre commune humanit\u00e9.\u00a0On essaie de b\u00e2tir des conditions pour se rencontrer, se fixer une cible commune qui transcende nos diff\u00e9rences et ainsi ne pas laisser les habitudes institutionnelles nous emp\u00eacher de nous rencontrer.\u00a0La deuxi\u00e8me chose sur laquelle je travaille beaucoup, c\u2019est la reconnaissance des privil\u00e8ges et la responsabilit\u00e9 qui vient avec ces privil\u00e8ges [\u2026] Je donne aussi des formations sur l\u2019intersectionnalit\u00e9, sur les biais inconscients. Dans ces formations, nous travaillons chacune sur nos biais. Pas pour ne plus jamais en avoir, mais pour \u00eatre certaines qu\u2019on en a et donc d\u2019y faire attention. Ce n\u2019est pas \u00e0 moi de leur dire comment faire, mais, plut\u00f4t \u00e0 elle de faire en sorte que leur biais inconscient ne deviennent pas des obstacles \u00e0 l\u2019inclusivit\u00e9. Finalement, que ces biais n\u2019emp\u00eachent pas d\u2019accompagner convenablement, des personnes qui ne leur ressemblent pas.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p> \n \n

F\u202f<\/mark>:<\/strong> Quels sont les d\u00e9fis au dialogue\u2009?\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

J.M\u202f:<\/mark><\/strong> Premi\u00e8rement, je travaille avec des cercles de parole, pas avec des d\u00e9bats, et je fais en sorte de ne pas travailler \u00e0 partir des d\u00e9bats. Aussi, je ne veux pas que l\u2019on se parle d\u2019id\u00e9es, mais plut\u00f4t d\u2019exp\u00e9riences. Parce qu\u2019avec les exp\u00e9riences, on peut se rencontrer comme humain. e. s. [\u2026] Si l\u2019on se demande, par exemple, \u00ab\u2009\u00e0 quel moment ai-je v\u00e9cu.e l\u2019oppression\u2009?\u2009\u00bb que tu sois blanc, noir, sourd, LGBTQI+ tu as v\u00e9cu l\u2019oppression. Mettons, tu peux \u00eatre une femme blanche, mais t\u2019as au moins v\u00e9cue de l\u2019oppression par rapport \u00e0 ton genre, ta classe sociale, ton poids\u2026qu\u2019en-sais-je. Alors, j\u2019aime mieux, plut\u00f4t que d\u2019aller sur les identit\u00e9s, opinions ou id\u00e9ologiques revenir sur l\u2019exp\u00e9rience humaine et regarder en quoi mon exp\u00e9rience d\u2019oppression peut me permettre de te comprendre. Puis, que l\u00e0-dedans, m\u00eame si on a pas la m\u00eame couleur de peau, pas les m\u00eames yeux, tu redeviens ma s\u0153ur en humanit\u00e9. Mais, pour \u00e7a, il faut avoir du temps et aussi des m\u00e9thodes de travail quoi.\u202f\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

F\u202f:<\/strong> <\/mark>Justement, apr\u00e8s la construction du lien, quelles sont les m\u00e9thodes de travail que tu mets en place\u2009?\u202f\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

J.M\u202f:<\/strong> <\/mark>Apr\u00e8s s\u2019\u00eatre rencontr\u00e9.e.s, on peut avoir une mission, une vision commune. \u00c0 partir du moment de la rencontre, l\u00e0 on se dit okay, comment moi X ou Y je veux vivre dans une organisation non oppressive. Du coup, on fait des politiques qui viennent de ces endroits-l\u00e0 o\u00f9 on ne souhaite pas faire revivre aux autres ce que l\u2019on a subi. L\u00e0, on questionne de mani\u00e8re critique nos pratiques et nos politiques. Mais \u00e7a se fait petit \u00e0 petit, nous sommes entre humain.e.s, cela ne se fait pas d\u2019un coup. Mais, en m\u00eame temps, \u00e7a devient beaucoup plus int\u00e9ressant.\u202f\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

F\u202f:<\/mark><\/strong> Un mot de la fin en tant qu\u2019intervenante psychosociale et consultante sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9e sur les questions d\u2019inclusion et diversit\u00e9 \u00e0 nos lecteurs.rices\u2009?\u202f\u00a0<\/p> \n \n

J.M\u202f:<\/strong> <\/mark>J\u2019aimerais dire aux jeunes femmes de la diaspora africaine\u00a0de s\u2019int\u00e9resser aux autres, arr\u00eatons de nous essentialiser nous m\u00eame en nous identifiant surtout\u00a0 \u00e0 l\u2019oppression v\u00e9cue.\u00a0Int\u00e9ressons-nous\u00a0aux autres, aux Qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois, \u00e0 ce qu\u2019ils vivent. Un Qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois n\u2019est pas un Fran\u00e7ais, un Fran\u00e7ais n\u2019est pas un Allemand et un Allemand n\u2019est pas un Belge. L\u2019identit\u00e9 blanche mur \u00e0 mur n\u2019existe pas.\u00a0Ce n\u2019est qu\u2019un construit social, variable et \u00e9volutif, selon les personnes, les contextes, les \u00e9poques, etc.\u00a0Et ce que la vie m\u2019a appris, c\u2019est que quand je m\u2019int\u00e9resse aux autres, ils finissent par s\u2019int\u00e9resser \u00e0 moi [\u2026] Tu sais, quand je suis arriv\u00e9e ici, la premi\u00e8re chose dont je me suis rendu compte c\u2019est que je parlais fran\u00e7ais, mais que je ne comprenais pas l\u2019humour qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois. Ils ne me faisaient pas rire, et cela m\u00eame si je comprenais leur langue. Alors tu sais, je me suis mise \u00e0 d\u00e9cortiquer leur imaginaire. J\u2019ai alors commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 regarder les feuilletons qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois, je lisais le soleil, le devoir. Je regardais les d\u00e9bats en chambre, je lisais les romans qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois [\u2026] J\u2019ai fait ce pas l\u00e0 de m\u2019en aller vers eux parce que je n\u2019avais pas le choix, parce que je ne pouvais pas aller dans un ghetto. Finalement, c\u2019est la chance que j\u2019ai eue d\u2019immigrer en r\u00e9gion. Parce que des fois, le confort de nos ghettos c\u2019est ce qui nous emp\u00eache de comprendre leur codes. [\u2026] Apr\u00e8s avoir compris, tu es libre de prendre ou non ces codes. Tu peux redevenir toi et choisir ce que tu veux et ce que tu ne veux pas. Mais, au moins, tu comprends les choix que tu fais et tu peux les expliquer.\u00a0Du coup, tu peux influencer la culture et te laisser toi aussi \u00eatre bonifi\u00e9e par la rencontre de l\u2019autre.\u00a0 On peut influencer la culture quand on la comprend pour, finalement, arriver \u00e0 ne pas nous-m\u00eames nous essentialiser. Je trouve que c\u2019est quelque chose d\u2019important.\u202f<\/mark><\/em><\/strong><\/p> \n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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